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go to college? >> guest: city college. c-span: what was city college like in those days? >> guest: well, it was a wonderful place. it had a lot of very bright students, very much interested in politics and very much interested in ideas along with an interest in politics. and i don't--let me put it this way: the faculty, i don't think, was all that distinguished, but it didn't matter. most of us students ended up educating each other, and we learned a lot. i learned a lot. it was--i got a very good education at city college, not all of it in the classroom. c-span: you talk about the different alcoves where people sat. >> guest: yes. c-span: which one were you in? >> guest: alcove one, which was the anti-communist or anti-stalinist alcove, where socialists of various kinds and some liberals would congregate and argue and exchange ideas, and it was a very nice alcove. it was my second home. c-span: was that in the cafeteria? >> guest: yes. all the alcoves were--when--were in an arc around the cafeteria. c-span: anybody in that alcove that we would know? any names we would recognize?
uninitiated eye, it does not appear to be one of the world's more attractive cities, but that's because you don't know the people there. they are just as straightforward and open-hearted and good as they can be. c-span: you write in your column--and this is a series of--well, i counted 70 columns? >> guest: that--i believe that's right. c-span: you write in your column about, 'lu--lubbock in my rearview mirror, perish the thought. for instance, one of the local television stations just ran a three-part investigative series on pantyhose called "born to run." is that true? >> guest: of course it's true. you can't make up stuff like that. and you never need to make up anything in texas because bizarre and strange things just always happen as a matter of course. c-span: now what's the difference between west texas and east texas? >> guest: oh, east texas is the very southern part of the state. in fact, i sometimes think that east texas is more like the old south than the old south is anymore. about 50 percent of the population there is black. it was plantation, cotton farming part o
' network to become the chief of breast surgery at columbia hospital in new york city, one of the biggest hospitals in the country and one of the best. c-span: how many women did you think about writing about? >> guest: i interviewed dozens of women around the country. i had the luxury of time to write this book. as i said, i took a leave of absence, and initially, i thought i was going to cover the whole spectrum of women's lives: demographic, geographic, age, socioeconomic. and what i quickly discovered was, in fact, that that wasn't going to work. that was too many women, and to travel deep, you couldn't travel broad, and so it quickly narrowed to about a dozen women and then, after about a year, narrowed to seven, then five, and at the very end, my last draft, narrowed it down to three women primarily because they were women who were really committed to telling the truth. they were very honest, but also, because they would let me use their real names and the other women really didn't want their names to be used. and i recognized at the end of my book that one of the real power
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